obama became president, the unemployment rate would be 10%. if we had same percentage of people looking for work today looking when unemployment rate peaked at 10% the unemployment rate today would still be 9.7 using that household data. which means most effective employment program the obama administration has been able to come up with is persuade people to leave the labor force. mr. obama managed to drive down number of adults that want a job. that is a great way to drive unemployment down. i would think the other guest would consider that. melissa: gary, last word before we go. >> look the employment rate has risen in last few months. there is no doubt about that. i don't understand this labor force participants rate idea. yes the participation rate is lower when the economy was expanding strongly. yes, that's true but the fact of the matter is, employment has been rising over the last three years, period. it is just not rising fast enough to put a big a dent in unemployment rate as we would all like to see, period. melissa: gentlemen, grea